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A Democrat member of the Arizona House of Representatives led the prayer before the government meeting. Rather than praying to a deity, he gave a speech about serving the good of the people and working to allow the people of Arizona to flourish. Republicans in the chamber decided that would not do and got a pastor in to lead a prayer.

So not only is the Arizona legislature mandating praying to god during their businesses (blatantly against seperation of church and state) they also get offended if someone gives a speech about helping their fellow man rather than mumbling something about God.

Wouldn't be surpised to see the Arizona state government being dragged into the courts for blatant disregard of the secular laws of the USA again.
There is an interesting statistic, the USA currently incarcerates more of its population than any other developed nation on the planet, more than many undeveloped nations too. It's not that the USA has much higher crime rates, they just seem to like locking people up for everything. What's more reoffending rates in the US are pretty poor so you have a sizeable segment of the population who just bounce in and out of prison all their life.

This is a huge cost both in terms of labour lost and the government paying to keep these people banged up. The US prison system generally leans towards punishment rather than rehabilitation and it could be argued this is an inefficient and outdated way to run a prison system.

Despite all this, it's barely discussed. Nobody is even thinking about it going into the elections. Guns are a hot topic with people talking about government taking away their rights and yet silent when the government bangs up a larger chunk of the population than anywhere else, 698 per 100,000 with the next biggest developed country being Russia at 445 and the next country of similar relative wealth being Israel at 240. For the USA that is about 2.2 million people in prison. 

So what do people think? Does the US prison system actually work or is it another industry with friends in government who make sure it is well fed regardless of the damage it may do?
As I'm sure many people have noticed, pretty much every year some lunatic predicts the end of the world based on some creative reading of the Bible. All the time they seem to ignore the following verses:

2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Matthew 24:36 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Considering the people making these predictions nearly always have a product they are peddling such as books and invariable end up making lots of money out of their predictions, don't normal Christians oppose such shameless charlatans? Why do these people still get so much traction and attention among the Christian population when they are clearly operating for their own personal greed and the Bible specifically states none will know when the end will come? Should more be done to make people aware these are frauds and not buy into their nonsense?
For a nation as advanced as the USA, it has always been baffling the disregard for science and the zealotry of some religious beliefs among the general population when compared to the rest of the developed world, with some attitudes bordering what you would expect to find somewhere like the middle east rather than a developed western civilization.

However, in one area at least, it looks like slowly but surely that trend is changing. A Pew study shows that now 4/10 American adults still reject Evolution but most interestingly, for those under the age of 30, there is a 73% acceptance of Evolution, compared with 61% back in 2009. Most interestingly, 51% accept it without adding the condition that it is divinely guided, up from 40%

So it seems after decades of fighting over the legitimacy of Evolution, the USA is now coming more in line with other developed nations in having widespread acceptance of it over religious creation stories. This is a trend a fair few on the right wing either dismiss or claim is some product of decadent American society. The fact conservatives have been talking about the impending destruction of morality in America since the founding of the nation, such comments aren't really that suprising. 

I guess the next big question is, how long will it be before Atheism is no longer a taboo subject? Estimates put the number of religiously unaffiliated at about 15% with self identified Atheists closer to maybe 3%, although the numbers cannot entirely be trusted due to the stigma of admitting to be an Atheist. So will it be a long, drawn out process or could the newer generation coming through that subscribes to fewer religious beliefs speed the process up?……
Seriously? Why does this still happen? Every year we see hundreds of people acting like animals in a frenzy of insane consumerism and it makes me whince watching these people desperately clawing through the bargains like a bunch of starving savages. People trampled, items ripped out of the hands of children, screaming, shouting, punching...

Why is such madness still promoted and does nobody feel any shame watching people act like a bunch of degenerates all to get their grubby mitts on something cheap?

EDIT meant to go in complaints, can a mod move it?


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Sol9000 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015
I liked Gandalf the Grey better.
A-M-A-P Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
May I ask you for you're thoughts on my newest piece ?…
And here is a Llama for you because your probably awesome, :D
Jeysie Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Since the thread was closed: I know you're from the UK. And quite frankly you guys have as much of a history of suffering "white" terrorism as the US does, making your complaints about Muslims still bizarre.

The Muslims don't have a monopoly on violent extremists by a long shot.
Ragerancher Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014
Yes we've had our experience of white terorrism but we don't now. Also it's beyond terrorism, we didn't have crowd of Irish charging around threatening to kill anyone who was rude about Islam but we have had that with Muslims.
Jeysie Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You haven't met our domestic terrorists here in the US. There's quite a few groups here who'd be absolutely happy to kill gays, Hispanics, blacks, women getting abortions, etc. if they thought they could get away with it. Some of them still go for it. There's also our nutjob right-wing militias planning for "race wars" and uprising against the government.

I remember the likes of McVeigh and the Unabomber, and our mass shootings have mainly been by whites, too. To me, this whole "Muslim extremists are way more dangerous than white ones!" is total bull. Maybe we should just deal with the extremists and leave out the prefacing adjectives against others. Especially since it's racist attitudes that fuel many of our domestic terrorists. I guess you're safe from them... if you're white, Christian, and straight!

P.S. Plus, the Muslims here don't get to put Sharia law into effect... but the Christians do their damnedest to put Christian law into effect and have been succeeding lately. You don't have to blow things up to harm people. There's a reason why "Christian Taliban" has been thrown around here as a term lately.
Cosmic--Chaos Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
In regards to the thread you made about North Korea, that idiot Wes STILL thinks that you're a racist just for making a James Bond joke and "hurting his feelings". What a baby... Sorry about that :P
Ragerancher Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
Meh I know what the rules are and I know I have a perfectly defensible case. He can go ahead with it because I know nothing will come from it. I'm still not entirely convinced he has, I think it's a bluff to try to provoke me into apologising.
Cosmic--Chaos Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know that, and yeah, he pulled the same shit with me all day, too.
Ragerancher Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
He must be the life of parties.
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